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["Chris Strohmeyer" <chrisstroh@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I just talked to Mark at calipersonline 
http://www.calipersonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=36  He 
says he has LOTS of rebuilt calipers for my 67 Imperial and others. His 
calipers are stainless steel sleeved and have a lifetime warranty when 
ordered in pairs. He was nice and very helpful and i highly recommend him.

Give him a call at 810-278-5865

Chris
67 Imperial convertibleStrohmeyer
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> Steve
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris Strohmeyer" <chrisstroh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 6:12 PM
> Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak
>
>
>> Oh, ok. Got it. I'll buy a tranny gasket before I take this on. While I 
>> have your knowledge, the kickdown adjusting screw may be leaking too. 
>> Does the threaded shaft have to come out or is there an o ring just under 
>> the nut?
>>
>> Thx for your help,
>> ChrisOriginal Message ----- 
From: "Stevan Miner" <miner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 3:43 AM
Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak


> Hi Chris,
> There is no seal on the kickdown adjusting screw. If it is seeping oil, I 
> just use a little Teflon white sealer on the threads when I reins
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Stevan Miner" <miner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 3:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak
>>
>>
>>> You'll never get it out far enough to get at the o-ring with the 
>>> tailshaft in place. I suppose you could take all the bolts out of the 
>>> tailshaft and rotate it around so that the ear was no longer blocking 
>>> the shaft. I'd be concerned about the gasket then between the case and 
>>> the tailshaft leaking.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Chris Strohmeyer" <chrisstroh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 4:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Stevan,
>>>>
>>>> If the o ring is 1/4" in from the end, and I can move it 1/2" to the 
>>>> ear blocking it, what prevents me from replacing it right there?
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Stevan Miner" <miner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 1:00 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>> The tailshaft must come off as the shaft exits out the back of the 
>>>>> case. The o-ring is just a standard one that you can buy at any parts 
>>>>> store. Just bring the old one along and compare. If you buy a seal and 
>>>>> gasket package for your transmission (there is several other gaskets 
>>>>> you'll need anyway) there will be one in that kit. I use ATP brand at 
>>>>> my shop.
>>>>> Stevan Miner
>>>>> Miner Auto Service
>>>>> Winnebago, MN
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Chris Strohmeyer" <chrisstroh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 2:28 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thx Stevan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doesn't that mean I could change the o ring without pulling the 
>>>>>> tailshaft? is the oring a standard one i could get at any auto store?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Stevan Miner" <miner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 10:12 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>>> That ear on the tailshaft prevents the shaft from working it's way 
>>>>>>> out of the back of the transmission case so it is necessary to be 
>>>>>>> there. The o-ring is about 1/4" from the end of the shaft so like I 
>>>>>>> mentioned earlier the shaft doesn't have to completely be removed to 
>>>>>>> replace the o-ring. Make sure you lube the o-ring up good when 
>>>>>>> reinstalling the shaft so that it doesn't get damaged on the case 
>>>>>>> edge. It's a fairly tight fit in the case and through the servo and 
>>>>>>> strut arm.
>>>>>>> Stevan Miner
>>>>>>> Miner Auto Service
>>>>>>> Winnebago, MN
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Chris Strohmeyer" <chrisstroh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 10:17 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thx  Stevan and Dave,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The shaft end looks to be blocked only by a useless ear of the 
>>>>>>>> tailshaft. It appears like the designers put it there by accident 
>>>>>>>> which prevents me from sliding the shaft rearward no more that 
>>>>>>>> about 1/2" . I wonder if the o ring is within 1/2" of the end?  Is 
>>>>>>>> the shaft stationary or does it move on it's axis or forward and 
>>>>>>>> aft?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thx guys,
>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>> 67 Imperial Convertible
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "Stevan Miner" <miner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 6:27 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>>>>> What you have leaking is the O-ring on the end of the shaft that 
>>>>>>>>> the low-reverse servo arm pivots on. You can change this without 
>>>>>>>>> trans removal but it takes a little work. You'll have to remove 
>>>>>>>>> the tailshaft. Remember there is a snap ring under the cover that 
>>>>>>>>> is now hidden by the rear transmission mount. The pan and valve 
>>>>>>>>> body will also have to be removed. You can then take a long punch 
>>>>>>>>> from the inside of the case and tap that shaft rearward to get at 
>>>>>>>>> the offending o-ring. I never completely remove the shaft just 
>>>>>>>>> enough to replace the O-ring. Makes it alot easier to line 
>>>>>>>>> everything back up and less chance of dislodging the reverse band 
>>>>>>>>> strut link. I always replace as the seals and gaskets that were 
>>>>>>>>> distributed during the procedure including the selector shaft 
>>>>>>>>> seal.
>>>>>>>>> Stevan Miner
>>>>>>>>> Miner Auto Service
>>>>>>>>> Winnebago MN
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>> From: "Chris Strohmeyer" <chrisstroh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 12:45 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: IML: 727 leak
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is going to be hard to describe but here goes. On my 67 
>>>>>>>>>> Imperial I have a leak at  just below the vertical surface that 
>>>>>>>>>> the tailshaft bolts to. It's a small space between the lower 
>>>>>>>>>> flange of the tailshaft and the TOP of the oil pan FLANGE. To see 
>>>>>>>>>> it you have to look from the back of the transmission looking 
>>>>>>>>>> forward. It's slightly off center of the tailshaft and where it's 
>>>>>>>>>> leaking appears to look like the end of a aprox 3/4" diameter 
>>>>>>>>>> shaft. Oil is seeping from this "shaft end". I've looked at the 
>>>>>>>>>> breakaway photos of the 727 and see nothing that looks like this 
>>>>>>>>>> inside so my next step is to drain the tranny,pull the pan and 
>>>>>>>>>> see.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thx,
>>>>>>>>>> Chris Strohmeyer
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Robin Giesbrecht" <robings@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 9:59 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: IML: power steering leak - O rings
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You can buy rebuild kits for the power steering pump that are 
>>>>>>>>>>> really only a seal kit. There is a big oring that seals the 
>>>>>>>>>>> whole canister and a few more seals for the shaft and the relief 
>>>>>>>>>>> valve I think. Not that hard to do.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Robin Giesbrecht
>>>>>>>>>>> 72 Imperial
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>From: Kenyon Wills <imperialist1960@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: IML: power steering leak  - O rings
>>>>>>>>>>>>Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:26:56 -0800 (PST)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>--- Chris Strohmeyer <chrisstroh@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Kenyan said...........
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > 4.  "Bad o-rings"?  Anyone else that works on cars
>>>>>>>>>>>> > where you live?  That sounds like bad advice to me,
>>>>>>>>>>>> > but it may be out of context and part of other info
>>>>>>>>>>>> > that he gave?
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Aren't there 1 or 2 large o rings on the power
>>>>>>>>>>>> > steering pump that seals the
>>>>>>>>>>>> > reservoir can?
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>True.  There are o-rings.  The way that the thing's
>>>>>>>>>>>>put together sorta precludes catastrophic fluid loss
>>>>>>>>>>>>as described in the letter posted here, but to address
>>>>>>>>>>>>the question:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>If I were going to pay a mechanic to deal with this, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>would buy a replacement pump unit that comes with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>warranty so that I didn't have to worry about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Reason being that I don't agree with paying a mechanic
>>>>>>>>>>>>to only partially rebuild a pump for a labor charge
>>>>>>>>>>>>that could very likely equal or exceed the cost of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>replacement.  I would pay the rehab factory that will
>>>>>>>>>>>>give a warranty do that portion instead and get the
>>>>>>>>>>>>whole thing spec'd out by someone that does nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>>but.  That's what I'd do, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Also, a failed O-ring seal is highly unlikely to cause
>>>>>>>>>>>>the sort of rapid fluid loss described, so that's what
>>>>>>>>>>>>I was thinking based on the info given, but I wasn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Please use an o in my name.  I'm particular about
>>>>>>>>>>>>that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>-Kenyon
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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