CALIPERSONLINE

["Chris Strohmeyer" <chrisstroh@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thx for that Dick but he has the calipers people need here, the BUDD 
calipers. Check out his site, he has actual pictures of them. I just talked 
to the guy extensively this morning. Before condemning him, check out his 
site.

Chris
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dick Benjamin" <dickb@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 5:10 PM
Subject: RE: IML: CALIPERSONLINE


> Someone who says he has "LOTS" of parts for these braking systems is
> probably thinking of the much more common disc brake calipers used on the
> lesser and later cars.  Make sure he is talking about the Budd brakes 
> before
> you send money.  I would be surprised to find anyone other than Lowell 
> Howe
> with "LOTS" of these.
>
> Dick Benjamin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Strohmeyer
> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 9:05 AM
> To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: IML: CALIPERSONLINE
>
> I just talked to Mark at calipersonline
> http://www.calipersonline.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=36  He
> says he has LOTS of rebuilt calipers for my 67 Imperial and others. His
> calipers are stainless steel sleeved and have a lifetime warranty when
> ordered in pairs. He was nice and very helpful and i highly recommend him.
>
> Give him a call at 810-278-5865
>
> Chris
> 67 Imperial convertibleStrohmeyer
> ----- tall it.
>> Steve
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Chris Strohmeyer" <chrisstroh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 6:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak
>>
>>
>>> Oh, ok. Got it. I'll buy a tranny gasket before I take this on. While I
>>> have your knowledge, the kickdown adjusting screw may be leaking too.
>>> Does the threaded shaft have to come out or is there an o ring just 
>>> under
>
>>> the nut?
>>>
>>> Thx for your help,
>>> ChrisOriginal Message ----- 
> From: "Stevan Miner" <miner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 3:43 AM
> Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak
>
>
>> Hi Chris,
>> There is no seal on the kickdown adjusting screw. If it is seeping oil, I
>> just use a little Teflon white sealer on the threads when I reins
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Stevan Miner" <miner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 3:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak
>>>
>>>
>>>> You'll never get it out far enough to get at the o-ring with the
>>>> tailshaft in place. I suppose you could take all the bolts out of the
>>>> tailshaft and rotate it around so that the ear was no longer blocking
>>>> the shaft. I'd be concerned about the gasket then between the case and
>>>> the tailshaft leaking.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Chris Strohmeyer" <chrisstroh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 4:34 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Stevan,
>>>>>
>>>>> If the o ring is 1/4" in from the end, and I can move it 1/2" to the
>>>>> ear blocking it, what prevents me from replacing it right there?
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Stevan Miner" <miner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 1:00 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>> The tailshaft must come off as the shaft exits out the back of the
>>>>>> case. The o-ring is just a standard one that you can buy at any parts
>>>>>> store. Just bring the old one along and compare. If you buy a seal 
>>>>>> and
>
>>>>>> gasket package for your transmission (there is several other gaskets
>>>>>> you'll need anyway) there will be one in that kit. I use ATP brand at
>>>>>> my shop.
>>>>>> Stevan Miner
>>>>>> Miner Auto Service
>>>>>> Winnebago, MN
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Chris Strohmeyer" <chrisstroh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 2:28 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thx Stevan,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doesn't that mean I could change the o ring without pulling the
>>>>>>> tailshaft? is the oring a standard one i could get at any auto 
>>>>>>> store?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Stevan Miner" <miner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 10:12 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>>>> That ear on the tailshaft prevents the shaft from working it's way
>>>>>>>> out of the back of the transmission case so it is necessary to be
>>>>>>>> there. The o-ring is about 1/4" from the end of the shaft so like I
>>>>>>>> mentioned earlier the shaft doesn't have to completely be removed 
>>>>>>>> to
>
>>>>>>>> replace the o-ring. Make sure you lube the o-ring up good when
>>>>>>>> reinstalling the shaft so that it doesn't get damaged on the case
>>>>>>>> edge. It's a fairly tight fit in the case and through the servo and
>>>>>>>> strut arm.
>>>>>>>> Stevan Miner
>>>>>>>> Miner Auto Service
>>>>>>>> Winnebago, MN
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "Chris Strohmeyer" <chrisstroh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 10:17 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thx  Stevan and Dave,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The shaft end looks to be blocked only by a useless ear of the
>>>>>>>>> tailshaft. It appears like the designers put it there by accident
>>>>>>>>> which prevents me from sliding the shaft rearward no more that
>>>>>>>>> about 1/2" . I wonder if the o ring is within 1/2" of the end?  Is
>>>>>>>>> the shaft stationary or does it move on it's axis or forward and
>>>>>>>>> aft?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thx guys,
>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>> 67 Imperial Convertible
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>> From: "Stevan Miner" <miner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 6:27 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: IML: 727 leak
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>>>>>> What you have leaking is the O-ring on the end of the shaft that
>>>>>>>>>> the low-reverse servo arm pivots on. You can change this without
>>>>>>>>>> trans removal but it takes a little work. You'll have to remove
>>>>>>>>>> the tailshaft. Remember there is a snap ring under the cover that
>>>>>>>>>> is now hidden by the rear transmission mount. The pan and valve
>>>>>>>>>> body will also have to be removed. You can then take a long punch
>>>>>>>>>> from the inside of the case and tap that shaft rearward to get at
>>>>>>>>>> the offending o-ring. I never completely remove the shaft just
>>>>>>>>>> enough to replace the O-ring. Makes it alot easier to line
>>>>>>>>>> everything back up and less chance of dislodging the reverse band
>>>>>>>>>> strut link. I always replace as the seals and gaskets that were
>>>>>>>>>> distributed during the procedure including the selector shaft
>>>>>>>>>> seal.
>>>>>>>>>> Stevan Miner
>>>>>>>>>> Miner Auto Service
>>>>>>>>>> Winnebago MN
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Chris Strohmeyer" <chrisstroh@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 12:45 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: IML: 727 leak
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is going to be hard to describe but here goes. On my 67
>>>>>>>>>>> Imperial I have a leak at  just below the vertical surface that
>>>>>>>>>>> the tailshaft bolts to. It's a small space between the lower
>>>>>>>>>>> flange of the tailshaft and the TOP of the oil pan FLANGE. To 
>>>>>>>>>>> see
>
>>>>>>>>>>> it you have to look from the back of the transmission looking
>>>>>>>>>>> forward. It's slightly off center of the tailshaft and where 
>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>
>>>>>>>>>>> leaking appears to look like the end of a aprox 3/4" diameter
>>>>>>>>>>> shaft. Oil is seeping from this "shaft end". I've looked at the
>>>>>>>>>>> breakaway photos of the 727 and see nothing that looks like this
>>>>>>>>>>> inside so my next step is to drain the tranny,pull the pan and
>>>>>>>>>>> see.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thx,
>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Strohmeyer
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Robin Giesbrecht" <robings@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 9:59 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: IML: power steering leak - O rings
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You can buy rebuild kits for the power steering pump that are
>>>>>>>>>>>> really only a seal kit. There is a big oring that seals the
>>>>>>>>>>>> whole canister and a few more seals for the shaft and the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> relief
>
>>>>>>>>>>>> valve I think. Not that hard to do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Robin Giesbrecht
>>>>>>>>>>>> 72 Imperial
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: Kenyon Wills <imperialist1960@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: IML: power steering leak  - O rings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:26:56 -0800 (PST)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>--- Chris Strohmeyer <chrisstroh@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Kenyan said...........
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > 4.  "Bad o-rings"?  Anyone else that works on cars
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > where you live?  That sounds like bad advice to me,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > but it may be out of context and part of other info
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > that he gave?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Aren't there 1 or 2 large o rings on the power
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > steering pump that seals the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > reservoir can?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>True.  There are o-rings.  The way that the thing's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>put together sorta precludes catastrophic fluid loss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>as described in the letter posted here, but to address
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the question:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>If I were going to pay a mechanic to deal with this, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>would buy a replacement pump unit that comes with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>warranty so that I didn't have to worry about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Reason being that I don't agree with paying a mechanic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>to only partially rebuild a pump for a labor charge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>that could very likely equal or exceed the cost of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>replacement.  I would pay the rehab factory that will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>give a warranty do that portion instead and get the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>whole thing spec'd out by someone that does nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>but.  That's what I'd do, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Also, a failed O-ring seal is highly unlikely to cause
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the sort of rapid fluid loss described, so that's what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I was thinking based on the info given, but I wasn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Please use an o in my name.  I'm particular about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>-Kenyon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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